FAT Bites - March Magnus, Toronto, and John Ballou
This episode of FAT Bites was recorded on-site during March Magnus (@magnusapollo) at Made On State in the heart of Rochester. Chris chats with John Ballou (@jackbearstamps), an artist and curator of the Mini Mystery Art Machine (@minimysteryartmachine).
Chris and John reflect on personal experiences, making it clear that community engagement is not just about the events, but the connections forged along the way. They chat about trips that don't measure up and how to keep expectations better balanced. Mentions of cool Toronto spots also included!
Mentions:
Made On State (@madeonstate) - Ali's Roti Shop - Chaiyo by PAI (@chaiyotoronto)
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Transcript
I'm Chris Lindstrom, and this is the Food About Town podcast.
Speaker B:Rochester.
Speaker B:Well, why Rochester?
Speaker A:Chris Lindstrom was a hoot.
Speaker A:He was just so much fun.
Speaker A:He never stopped talking.
Speaker A:I mean, it was great.
Speaker B:Here's a good idea.
Speaker B:Have a point.
Speaker B:It makes it so much more interesting for the listener, and we don't need.
Speaker A:Any characters around to give the joint atmosphere.
Speaker B:Is that clear?
Speaker B:Because I'm a pro.
Speaker B:That's what pros do.
Speaker B:I'm a professional.
Speaker B:Look it up in the book.
Speaker A:But now, yeah, I'm thinking I'm back.
Speaker A:And we're back with a mini episode of the Food About Town podcast.
Speaker A:And if this video gets posted, I just walked into frame.
Speaker A:Guest, introduce yourself.
Speaker B:Hey, I'm John Ballou.
Speaker B:Nice to meet you.
Speaker A:So I wrapped John into this.
Speaker A:We are at March Magnus here at Maidan State Magnus.
Speaker A:And a lot of people here open up their doors for people to walk around, and people were trading artwork and selling small things.
Speaker A:Seems like a really nice little community activity to do.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's a long day of, like.
Speaker B:I mean, he starts at 11 and goes to whenever.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I think people kind of just come and go.
Speaker B:So sometimes, you know, sometimes there's a bunch of people here, sometimes it's kind of quiet.
Speaker B:So just depends.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Well, shout out to good buddy Magnus.
Speaker A:The mind of Magnus on the Lunchadore Podcast Network had a great.
Speaker A:Yeah, I had a great time interviewing him about his trip to India.
Speaker B:So that was a great one.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Really enjoyed listening to that.
Speaker A:It was very enjoyable.
Speaker A:And I think it's always great to have somebody else ask the questions for those kind of situations, because it can be.
Speaker A:It's a lot trying to recount it all yourself, 100%.
Speaker A:And, yeah, I think that's kind of why community.
Speaker A:That's why we have our community.
Speaker A:So if we're going to talk about something that is fun or challenging, having somebody to work through it can be so valuable.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And they're gonna think of things that you didn't think of.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Like, I might make a list of, like, okay, here are all the highlights of my trip or something.
Speaker B:But they might say a question or ask something in a certain way that sparks another memory from that trip that you forgot about.
Speaker B:You know, like, I don't know, if I.
Speaker B:If I asked Magnus about his trip, like, he.
Speaker B:I don't know, maybe he wouldn't have been like, oh, yeah, they kept calling me John Cena over there.
Speaker B:You know, like, what.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker A:The thing I never would have thought of.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:It's like anyone.
Speaker B:Did anyone call you by a wrestler's name?
Speaker A:Speaking of which, John, where can people get your.
Speaker A:Where can people find your work before we go into random talk about things?
Speaker B:Oh, sure.
Speaker B:I'm.
Speaker B:I'm an artist.
Speaker B:I go by Jack or John.
Speaker B:Either's fine.
Speaker B:I do hand carved rubber stamps.
Speaker B:I have a little.
Speaker B:My.
Speaker B:I call myself Jack Bear Stamp and press.
Speaker B:I'm also the curator of the Mini Mystery Art Machine here in Rochester.
Speaker B:So you have probably heard me on the behind the Studio podcast.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Where's the machine right now?
Speaker B:Yeah, right now the machine is in my dining room.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Because it's about to launch in stem, which is a little plant store on lower Monroe Ave.
Speaker B:And that's going to start in April.
Speaker B:April 2nd.
Speaker A:Oh, that's awesome.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:This will be out within the next day.
Speaker A:So in April you can go check it out at STEM in Upper Monroe.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker A:I think that's a great spot for it in a play shop.
Speaker B:I didn't know anything about it until they contacted me, right?
Speaker B:And they were like, oh, we have this little plant store.
Speaker B:And I'm like, oh, where it's at?
Speaker B:I'm like, oh, Laura Monroe.
Speaker B:And I was like, really?
Speaker B:And I'm looking at it.
Speaker B:I'm like, oh my God, look at that.
Speaker B:Right in that spot.
Speaker B:And then I started telling people, I'm like, oh, it's going to be at stem.
Speaker B:And they're like, oh, I love stem.
Speaker B:Oh, I love stem.
Speaker B:People like know it all.
Speaker B:And I was like, oh, I.
Speaker A:That's right near, that's right near downtown, right next to Good Life Collective, right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You can basically like look across the street and you can see the Straw Museum.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:New Rocco and all that stuff.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Owl House right around the corner.
Speaker A:That's a great spot.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Easy, easy parking down there and lots to do.
Speaker B:And it's.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's.
Speaker B:My daughter's a.
Speaker B:Like, she loves plants and like that aesthetic and so it's just like she, she walks in there and just goes, oh, can I just like, can this be my bedroom?
Speaker B:Can I just sleep here?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:My house is now filled with plants.
Speaker A:Carrie has done a lot of work around that and I gotta say, it just feels like a better space.
Speaker A:Turns out that if it's up to me, the main decoration is going to be a giant TV and Xbox and my full podcast studio in the house.
Speaker A:But it has been really nice having the plants in the house, generally speaking.
Speaker B:Yeah, I have kind of terrible light in my house, like My, the spots where there's like good light is kind of like south facing or north facing windows.
Speaker B:So I got, I got crazy probably light.
Speaker A:Oh, that makes complete sense.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And well.
Speaker B:But I'm sure they can find me plants.
Speaker B:I'm curious to talk to them because they'll probably be like, oh, well, you just need this plant, this plant and this plant.
Speaker B:And I'll be like, oh, okay.
Speaker B:Well, that's really cool.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:The easy ones.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:The lower light ones and the ones that are hard to kill.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So those.
Speaker A:That's always a great feature in a plant.
Speaker A:Hard to kill, easy to grow.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it's.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:And I'm not never consistent about like, oh, how much do I water and all this.
Speaker B:But it's nice to have friends who are experts so that you can then.
Speaker A:Ask them for sure.
Speaker A:Well, what I kind of wanted to touch on in this mini episode, beyond just chatting with my buddy John, is talk about some of the new shows on the network, which I'm super excited about.
Speaker A:We're going to do some specific publicity push on those.
Speaker A:So we have a new show that is the bossy show.
Speaker A:Oh, excellent.
Speaker A:So Kelly Metrus and Kelly Bush have been doing their bossy show around Rochester for a while.
Speaker A:We're really excited to have them as part of the network.
Speaker A:So they've joined up, which is really exciting to see that.
Speaker B:I've enjoyed their show.
Speaker B:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And they're just really cool people trying to help other women business owners and business owners in general.
Speaker A:I think they're very honest about their experiences and I'm super happy they've joined and then.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And good for any entrepreneur, anyone who is thinking about starting a business or owns a business, like great.
Speaker B:Like kind of like, hey, these are the kinds of things you need to think about.
Speaker B:Great show.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then the other one that first episodes coming out I think just came out is Murphy's Rank the World.
Speaker A:So Megan Murphy and Sky Murphy from Anomaly, their brother Tim, their first episode I think is already out now and they basically have a topic and they talk about their favorite things and debate them in a way that only siblings can do.
Speaker A:And if you already know Meg or Sky, they are just the beautiful embodiment of chaos in the most fun and interesting way.
Speaker A:And I think it's just going to be a blast to listen to.
Speaker B:Megan's great.
Speaker B:She's been in the Mini Mystery Art Machine several times.
Speaker B:She's a great artist and yeah, I love her on the Anomaly podcast.
Speaker B:Always, always Great insight on the crazy movies that they watch.
Speaker A:Yeah, she's just a cool person.
Speaker A:And then, you know, coming up soon, I think it's.
Speaker A:I think it's called Common Thread show with Greg Benoit and Rory Van Grohl talking about their experiences from like the hardcore community and how it's shaped them as adults.
Speaker A:Talking with locals, talking with people from around the country, talking about that.
Speaker A:So that's going to be out in the near future as well.
Speaker A:So we're super excited about those.
Speaker B:Is that like hardcore music, Hardcore radio, wrestling?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Do you know Rory at all?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:So Rory's the owner of Ugly Duck Coffee.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:And he is a.
Speaker A:He's a long time like hardcore singer.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:So like screaming style music and wildly talented.
Speaker A:So they're gonna talk about that as, you know, how it's affected them as adults and made them, you know, the people they are today.
Speaker B:Interesting.
Speaker A:So super excited about that.
Speaker B:I've been listening to a lot more like punk style music lately just because it feels like I my anger out listening to it.
Speaker B:And I'll be making art and I'll just be like blasting like some punk and just be like, you know, oh.
Speaker A:You'Re going to want to check out some of Rory's stuff.
Speaker B:Just get it.
Speaker B:Yeah, he actually toured too.
Speaker A:Yeah, he toured and stuff earlier.
Speaker B:That'll be fun.
Speaker A:And some of the people he played in bands with were like Brian Vanetten.
Speaker B:Interesting.
Speaker A:I think, I think Jeff Ching, who was, you know, one of the other, you know, notable restaurant people in town.
Speaker A:They kind of played together like earlier when they were younger people.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's super exciting.
Speaker A:But that's kind of some of the new stuff coming.
Speaker A:We'll have some publicity coming on that soon.
Speaker A:But what I kind of want to talk about is a recent trip to Toronto I made went up with Carrie for a convention she was selling at.
Speaker A:I've been to this one a few times.
Speaker A:You know, it's right on the water in the harborfront area of Toronto.
Speaker A:So, you know, lets you walk to some places.
Speaker A:And I love, I love spending time in Toronto.
Speaker A:And it's sometimes the challenge of trips is you don't know.
Speaker A:You know, unless it's a really planned out thing, you don't necessarily know how it's going to go.
Speaker B:Oh yeah.
Speaker A:And this was one of those trips where I didn't get out and do as much as I would have liked.
Speaker A:I didn't feel up for it.
Speaker A:There were long days and you go through all the stress of going across the border doing the import thing.
Speaker B:Oh, God.
Speaker A:Which was brutal.
Speaker A:Right now, of course, due to.
Speaker A:Due to problematic willy nilly usage of tariffs and not understanding how tariffs work unless you are a chaos monster.
Speaker A:And it was really.
Speaker A:It was difficult, it was expensive, and we still got to have some good times.
Speaker A:Like, we stopped at this roti place on the way into town, Ali's Roti Shop.
Speaker A:And that's like Trinidadian food.
Speaker A:So you get this stewed food sometimes wrapped in roti wrappers.
Speaker A:So they're like stretchy, almost like whole.
Speaker B:Wheat tortillas almost, but kind of stretchy.
Speaker A:Yeah, they're stretchy and they wrap it usually around into like a square burrito kind of thing.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:And it'll be filled with like, you know, curry goat or chickpeas or whatever else.
Speaker B:Sounds good to me.
Speaker A:Amazing food.
Speaker A:I wish we had more of it here.
Speaker A:I adore that cuisine.
Speaker A:We sat down, we were talking to, you know, one of the owners and like, that's great.
Speaker A:I love that part of being in Toronto.
Speaker A:But we didn't.
Speaker A:I don't think we really got out other than that first night, that first.
Speaker A:Wait, first day coming in.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, I got to walk around on Friday, got to bounce around a little bit.
Speaker A:But I was kind of doing my day job work and I didn't get to go out and explore.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:As much as I would prefer, you know, got to grab some good food coming in.
Speaker A:Got some really good Thai food.
Speaker B:I think it was because of the area you were in.
Speaker B:Were you kind of like downtown, kind of skyscraper?
Speaker B:Y kind of.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's a little far from a lot of things you wanted to walk to.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you know, they're long days and also wanted to spend time with Carrie, spend time with my wife, and she's beat by the end of the day.
Speaker A:Like when the walk to a place that I would want to go to is like the lowest distance is 15 minutes.
Speaker A:Yeah, 15, 20 minute walk.
Speaker A:And you've been, you know, burning yourself out, sewing all day.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's a hard ask.
Speaker B:Is she on her feet a lot too, at the show?
Speaker A:You can be.
Speaker A:It really depends.
Speaker A:But it's also the energy of being up.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Just being on.
Speaker A:I mean, you've sold.
Speaker A:You sell at shows, you sell it.
Speaker B:You'Re exhausted at the end of it, you don't want to do.
Speaker B:I want to eat pizza and watch tv.
Speaker B:I don't want to talk to people.
Speaker B:I don't want to be on my feet.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Because you.
Speaker A:You sell it.
Speaker A:You sell it a bunch of Shows locally, including, like, Mayday.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Where you're setting up that morning or setting up the night before and then tearing down at the end of the day or end of the weekend.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:You know, even though you're just doing that, it's still a lot.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, yeah, if you.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And if you're in another place, it's just like.
Speaker B:Yeah, I just want to.
Speaker B:If you're in a hotel room or something, I'll lay here and get ready for tomorrow because I got to do it all over again.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:In her case.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you're doordashing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's three days in a row.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:You're doordashing.
Speaker B:Something that's nearby or something.
Speaker A:And, you know, that's.
Speaker A:That sucks, too, because I.
Speaker A:I don't like supporting that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Especially when I'm in a city, I want to support those small businesses that, you know, I want to go visit.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But at some point, you kind of have to do what you have to do.
Speaker A:Thankfully, you know, I did get to go out, you know, a little bit.
Speaker A:Got to pick up some really good Thai food from a place.
Speaker A:It's an offshoot of a place we've eaten from before called Pai P A I.
Speaker A:This is, like, more of a takeout specific place.
Speaker A:So the pie place is a little more northern Thai, so it's more like specific regional Thai.
Speaker B:Oh, interesting.
Speaker A:And I thought their ingredients are always really good.
Speaker A:Their flavors are really good.
Speaker A:So we got to bring some of that back one of the days.
Speaker B:That's good.
Speaker A:And that was really enjoyable.
Speaker A:We had some really good Indian food one of the nights.
Speaker B:That's what I love about Toronto.
Speaker B:It's a very international city.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And so, absolutely, it's very easy to, like, jump through different food groups and just try all kinds of stuff that, you know.
Speaker B:And, you know, Rajesh has got a great scene, but sometimes you're just like, oh, I forgot about that, or, oh, I don't have.
Speaker B:I don't go to that place or that type of food very often.
Speaker B:So, yeah, Toronto is just easier to find, like, the variety.
Speaker A:A city of that size, like, there's so.
Speaker A:So many options.
Speaker A:And, yeah, like, yeah, we did get to get the Trinidadian food.
Speaker A:I got to get out to a few coffee shops, but, you know, my time was limited, and it always felt rushed, and it.
Speaker A:Those are, I think, are somewhat harder than, you know, the trips are just a little disappointing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Or disappointing where.
Speaker A:Oh, it wasn't what I was hoping.
Speaker A:It wasn't bad.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And sometimes bad trips are easier because they just went so wrong that, like, there's nothing I could have done.
Speaker A:It rained all weekend when it's outside of your control.
Speaker A:And, you know, I struggle with weekends like this where I feel like I didn't do what I could have done to enjoy myself more.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Although on the other side, it sounds like a working weekend.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Sounds like you were working, Gary was working.
Speaker B:You know, and so, you know, anyone who's gone to a convention or something in the city.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:They might actually do something in that city for, you know, 5% of the time and they're inside doing their thing.
Speaker B:Make it try, you know, trying to learn something or make a buck or whatever it is.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I think it's also, you know, weeks like that.
Speaker A:I'll front load work during the week.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'll be working longer days during the day job, setting up, recording more.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So you're tired doing those things.
Speaker A:And I can go forever to a point.
Speaker A:Right, right.
Speaker A:I can.
Speaker A:I'll be on the grind for hours.
Speaker A:I'll do long days.
Speaker A:But it's also, at some point you kind of have to crash.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you know what?
Speaker A:One of the nights one of her other dealer friends came over.
Speaker A:We were hanging out.
Speaker B:That sounds fun.
Speaker A:And we, we sat and watched.
Speaker A:Sat and watched like some wrestling or something that night.
Speaker A:And it was like, it was easy and it was nothing and it was, it was good.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And those are the harder ones for me because I struggle.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because I want it to be great.
Speaker A:I wanted it.
Speaker A:I want to make those, the end of the day fun for her.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because it's, it is a long day.
Speaker A:I want her to have a good time at the end of the day.
Speaker A:And sometimes I just have to reset my expectations where it's okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That, hey, she needed to crash.
Speaker A:I couldn't have made it better for her if I said, hey, I'm going to drive you over here, let's go to this place.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:She wouldn't have enjoyed it.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:She just needed less and.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And then I would have been forcing her to have my good time.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Yeah, good point.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Those, those are tough weekends.
Speaker A:I don't know if other people, like, work through that stuff, but it's.
Speaker A:I mean, I, It's a constant balance.
Speaker B:I experience it at home.
Speaker B:Chris.
Speaker B:Sometimes, like on a weekend, I'm a very like, like, hey, let's.
Speaker B:You know, a good weekend means I like you.
Speaker B:Like you said, I did A lot of things.
Speaker B:Or I got a lot of things done or it feels.
Speaker B:And so I do feel very unfulfilled.
Speaker B:If it's a weekend goes by and I go, man, I didn't do anything this weekend.
Speaker B:And I know other people don't.
Speaker B:Like, some people love to just crash and just.
Speaker B:I'm just gonna watch TV or I'm gonna sleep in.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't feel fulfilled unless I'm doing something.
Speaker B:So I know how you feel, and I can see that even in a trip where you're in a different place, you're like, oh, I thought I was gonna do a couple more things along the way, and I didn't.
Speaker B:Didn't feel like I got those things done.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker A:I start with that on weekends, too.
Speaker A:If I'm.
Speaker A:Oh, I recorded three shows during the week.
Speaker A:I worked my full day job.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And then I'm disappointed with myself that I didn't do 15 hours of podcast work over the weekend.
Speaker A:Those.
Speaker A:Those.
Speaker A:I still have to work through those.
Speaker A:Work through that mentally and get myself more comfortable with taking time.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which is why I have a partner in crime in the podcast thing.
Speaker A:He helps me with that.
Speaker A:I mean, and thankfully, hey, we had a meeting this morning out talking to.
Speaker A:Talking to somebody in marketing that works with some larger events in Rochester, and there's some really cool opportunities coming up, and I have to take a step back sometimes and feel, oh, things are going well.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I think you're right.
Speaker B:Like, the perspective is, like, stepping back.
Speaker B:Like, actually, Magnus kind of taught me this.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:One year, he.
Speaker B:He, like, at the end of the year, he posted something on Instagram that was, like, a list of all of his things that he did that year, like, all of his projects.
Speaker B:And I'm just reading through this thing, and I'm going, how does this man, like, sleep?
Speaker B:Like, it was ridiculous.
Speaker B:But then I realized, always amazing.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:But then I realized I'm like, okay, well, what if I made a list like that?
Speaker B:And so last year, I kind did that.
Speaker B:I kind of kept track and kind of kept a list of, like, all of the things I did.
Speaker B:So at the end of the year, I was like, okay, you know what?
Speaker B:So what I did, so what?
Speaker B:I didn't get three things I wanted to do done that weekend.
Speaker B:Look at this giant list of things I did.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So you're right.
Speaker B:Sometimes you just got to zoom back and look at the bigger picture.
Speaker A:I do like the idea of actually writing some stuff down because it's, you know, you always think about the things you couldn't get to or you didn't get to or wanted to get to or.
Speaker A:Or we're desperate to get to.
Speaker A:And not getting there is.
Speaker A:I think my biggest.
Speaker A:Is the biggest challenge.
Speaker A:But that's why I have people to talk to.
Speaker A:That's why I have friends who work through the same things.
Speaker A:Why I have, you know, accomplished friends like Magnus, you know, people like you who are doing this stuff and passionate about it.
Speaker A:You know, I have my wife to talk to about that, have Matt to talk to about it.
Speaker A:And it is.
Speaker A:It's a very valuable thing that I don't take advantage of enough.
Speaker A:All the people around that also are working through the same things.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, we're not special.
Speaker B:Nope.
Speaker A:These thoughts aren't unique to me.
Speaker B:Nope.
Speaker A:They're people who care hard about what they do.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, It's.
Speaker B:Yeah, I feel exactly the same way.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:You've got to talk to people.
Speaker B:I have a very, like, my day job's very, like, work remotely.
Speaker B:You know, I.
Speaker B:I'm sort of chatting with people and talking with people throughout the day, but it's not.
Speaker B:You're not having an in depth conversation with anybody.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's transactional.
Speaker B:And so, yeah, I.
Speaker B:I find that I.
Speaker B:Even though I'm very much an introverted kind of person, that I don't really need that much contact with people.
Speaker B:I find that now that I've been doing this remote work, I do have to, like, get out and hang out with people more often, because then I go, oh, man, I feel so much better at the end of that.
Speaker B:Even though oftentimes that stresses me out and tires me out.
Speaker B:But now it's kind of the reverse.
Speaker B:I'm like, oh, okay, I'm resetting.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So, yeah, sometimes you just need to get it.
Speaker B:Talk it out.
Speaker A:Yeah, sometimes it's needed.
Speaker A:And you know what?
Speaker A:Like, I.
Speaker A:Earlier this week, I had somebody over who was actually a guest on the Poly Guglielamo show.
Speaker A:Tara Clark, local sommelier and, you know, wine expert and hospitality expert, and she wanted to help.
Speaker A:Help get some setup done on a show she's hoping to do.
Speaker A:And I'm like, just come over.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you know what?
Speaker A:That experience of having somebody come over just to.
Speaker A:Just to help.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:We weren't recording.
Speaker A:We weren't doing anything, and I just got to do the help.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that.
Speaker A:Just that little thing.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And, yeah, it was a busy day.
Speaker A:I had curling after, but that was.
Speaker A:That made you feel like, oh, yeah.
Speaker A:People want to.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Having somebody around just to help.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That was so much fun.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Sometimes, right.
Speaker B:When there's not a product at the end of it where you're.
Speaker B:You're feeling like, oh, I have to get this thing done, and you can just like.
Speaker B:And you can like, oh, okay, you know what?
Speaker B:I made a difference today.
Speaker B:Even though there's not something that's.
Speaker B:I can, like, point and said, hey, look, I did that, or I accomplished that or whatever.
Speaker B:You're like, oh, no, that was really important.
Speaker B:Like, I was able to help somebody.
Speaker B:And I know different people have different.
Speaker B:Like, some people are really energized every day by that.
Speaker B:Like, they have to, like, help somebody every day.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But, yeah, to be able to mentor somebody, that's.
Speaker B:It's a great feeling when you can answer questions for somebody and be like, oh, okay, hey, look, I have knowledge that's beneficial for another person.
Speaker B:Like, that's amazing.
Speaker A:Well, yeah, and that's like, oh, it turns out you can have conversations with people and they don't always have to be recorded.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Yeah, that too.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'm sure.
Speaker B:You sure you experience that, like, here and there.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Or there's probably times where you're like, oh, man, that conversation I should have recorded this probably goes either way for you.
Speaker B:You're like, man, this was nice not to do this.
Speaker B:Like, I've heard people do that.
Speaker B:Like, YouTubers who are talking about like, oh, I should have filmed that, but I didn't.
Speaker B:Or, man, I wish I didn't have to film everything.
Speaker B:It's like the same side of the coin, but you can feel both ways at the same moment.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Well, speaking of not recording everything, thank you for tuning into this mini episode of the Food About Town podcast.
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Speaker A:Thanks so much for jumping in during March.
Speaker A:Magnus.
Speaker A:Kind of figured I'd do it live while I was out here.
Speaker B:This was, you know, therapy on State Street, I guess.
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